Gab Pound was 21 when she was selected by Carlton with pick No.30 in the inaugural 2016 draft, the 16th pick in the Victorian pool.
Only Vescio and Brea Moody have played more AFLW games for the club, but with 62 matches under her belt, Pound sits at equal-41st all-time across the competition.
She hasn't missed that many games over the years – a couple with a broken finger, two with COVID, a few more for uni commitments – but finals have been few and far between in recent years, seeing inaugural Brisbane and Adelaide players race ahead.
Pound – once again nursing a freshly broken finger, but likely to avoid surgery – has seen first-hand the changes at Carlton.
"Every season has increased in terms of capacity and support, and particularly, it's been a really big jump in the last two seasons. A lot of factors come into that, increase of average pay, which means the entire list can now focus more into football and not have other stressors," Pound said.
"Carlton specifically have really turned a corner. It was a really gutsy move to have an external review, and we found some really telling things. It was amazing for our program, because we didn't know what we didn't know. We're really on track now. We're the first club to go to all day training (sessions), which turned into a bit of a joke by the end of the season, because we talked about it so much.
"We feel like we're really respected as athletes, rather than it being our second job. We can go home at reasonable times and get to sleep at optimal times, and pre-season is much more manageable.
"It's a bit of push and pull with the men's and women's programs, and the men have to sacrifice a bit too. Even the whole-club interaction, it's so beneficial – we can go to the (club) café now and have a coffee. Unreal coffee at the Carlton cafe, by the way. We talk about our 'Stronger Together' theme, and it's not fake or anything. It's really happening with what Carlton has been able to do in terms of really encompassing the W program."
Pound jokes about the day training commentary, but the Blues say it's made a tangible difference to the development of players, with staff also being able to be shared across programs a little more easily.
"Our typical days are 11 till six. We talk about a high-performance environment, and a lot of it is personnel and resources, but then it comes to scheduling," head of AFLW Ash Naulty said.
"It's been extremely beneficial and positive. Our group is able to physically and mentally recover. The learning aspect of the game is so important now, so being able to have the girls leave by six, eating dinner at an appropriate time, being able to rest, recover and go again.
"It holds us in good stead for being able to lay blocks of consistency, in terms of preparation.
"As part of the review, we had 32 staff in the previous season, and we've brought that down to 26, with 10 full-timers and four at 0.6 roles. So making sure their roles are really clear, and if they have dual roles at the club, making sure there are real, set boundaries."
Turning 30 this year, Pound has one eye one life outside of the game, studying a bachelor of outdoor education up in Bendigo, keen to maintain a close connection with nature, whether in the future that involves taking school groups bushwalking, kayaking or even rock climbing.
"I've always been pretty cruisey and not been the type of person to be like, 'I want to be doing this when I'm this age', I'm pretty open to it all. But it's not lost on me that this is such a special opportunity," she said.
"My dad always says – because he played football too – to make sure you enjoy everything. It's not going to last forever. And if you're really enjoying yourself, and getting the joy out of football, you get into this flow state, and you play really well as a team, and you know you're enjoying being around each other as much as it is a serious environment.
"Sport's a massive platform. AFL is a massive platform, and I feel very privileged to be able to use whatever platform I have to really talk about social issues I really care about. I've had opportunities with RSPCA for animal cruelty, and advocating for a queer space, and so many other things it's been, it's been unreal.
"The fact of what the W has done for the AFL, in terms of really shifting that whole social space, it's definitely been really positive. Hopefully another nine years down the track, it's going to be even better."
